'The Mayor Was Definitely Intoxicated': Trump Officials Describe Giuliani on Election Night

Rudy Giuliani, the former attorney of President Trump, was described by campaign officials as clearly “intoxicated” on election night in November 2020, according to recorded depositions played at the January 6th Committee on Monday.

Trump Campaign Manager Bill Stepien and Senior Adviser Jason Miller both described the former New York City mayor’s presence at the White House on the evening of November 3, where staff remained past midnight. Giuliani, who also spoke to committee investigators, said that he spoke with Trump “several times that night.”

When prompted by investigators, Miller said that Giuliani appeared to have had too much to drink. “The mayor was definitely intoxicated, but I do not know his level of intoxication when he spoke with the president, for example,” said Miller. “There were suggestions by I believe it was Mayor Giuliani to go and declare victory and say that we’d won it outright." Credit: January 6th Committee via Storyful

Video transcript

- Arizona's call, do you remember that?

BILL STEPIEN: I do.

- What do you remember happening where you were when Arizona was called?

BILL STEPIEN: I-- there was surprise at the call.

- Who was surprised?

BILL STEPIEN: Most everyone in the room.

- Were you being one of them?

BILL STEPIEN: Yes.

- Did that shift the atmosphere or the attitude in the White House?

JASON MILLER: Completely.

- How so? Can you describe that?

JASON MILLER: Because Fox News was the first one to go out and say that.

- So was it anger kind of directed towards Fox News for making a call more so than a disappointment that maybe the campaign lost Arizona?

JASON MILLER: All of the above.

- So both anger and disappointment

JASON MILLER: Both disappointment with Fox and, um, concern that maybe our data or our numbers weren't accurate.

- Were you in the White House residence during the sort of past midnight into the early morning hours of November 4?

RUDY GIULIANI: Yes. Oh, sure. It went over beyond midnight, yes.

- Do you remember Rudy Giuliani being at the White House on election night and into the early hours the next morning?

BILL STEPIEN: I do.

- What do you remember about when he came?

BILL STEPIEN: Um, he-- he was-- there were-- I had heard that he was upstairs, you know, in the aforementioned reception area. And he was looking to talk to the president. And it was suggested instead that he come talk to several of us down off the map room.

- You said that Mr.-- you had heard that Mr. Giuliani wanted to talk to the president and that he was directed your way. Did you end up talking to Mr. Giuliani when he directed--

BILL STEPIEN: I did. I did.

- What was that conversation?

BILL STEPIEN: A lot of conversations were directed my way. A few of us-- myself, Jason Miller, Justin Clark, and Mark Meadows-- gathered, um, in a room off the map room to listen to whatever Rudy presumably wanted to say to the president.

- Was there anyone in that conversation who, in your observation, had had too much to drink?

JASON MILLER: Um, Mayor Giuliani.

- Tell me more about that. What was your observation about his potential intoxication during that discussion about what the president should say when he addressed the nation on Election Night?

JASON MILLER: The mayor was definitely intoxicated. But I did not, um, know his level of intoxication when he spoke with the president, for example.

- Were you part of any discussions with the people I mentioned-- Mr. Stepien, Mr. Meadows, or anyone else-- about whether the president should make any sort of speech on Election Night?

RUDY GIULIANI: I mean, I spoke to the president. They may have been present. But I spoke to the president several times that night.

JASON MILLER: There are suggestions by, I believe it was Mayor Giuliani, to go and declare victory and say that we won it outright.

BILL STEPIEN: It was far too early to be making any calls like that. Ballots were still being counted. Ballots were still gonna be counted for days. And it was far too early to be making any proclamation like that.

JASON MILLER: I remember saying that I, to the best of my memory, I was saying that we should not go and declare victory until we had a better sense of the numbers.

- OK. Can you be more specific about that conversation, in particular what Mayor Giuliani said, your response, and then anybody else in the room's response?

JASON MILLER: I think effectively Mayor Giuliani was saying, we want it. They're stealing it from us. Where did all the votes come from? We need to go say that we won, and essentially, that anyone who didn't agree with that position was being weak?

- What was your view at the time as to what he should or shouldn't say?

IVANKA TRUMP: I don't know that I had a firm view as to what he should say in that circumstance. The results were still being counted. It was becoming clear that the race would not be called on Election Night.

BILL STEPIEN: My belief, my recommendation was to say that votes were still being counted. It's too early to tell, too early to call the race. But, you know, we are proud of the race we ran. And we, you know, think we're in good position. And we'll have more to say about this, you know, the next day or the next day, whenever we had something to say.

- And did anybody who is a part of that conversation disagree with your message?

BILL STEPIEN: Yes.

- Who was that?

BILL STEPIEN: The president disagreed with that. I don't recall the particular words. He thought I was wrong. He told me so and, you know, that they were gonna-- that he was gonna go in a different direction.

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